At a debate August 9 at Medgar Evers College among the four candidates for the open 11th Congressional District seat being vacated by Major Owens, the issue of Atlantic Yards inevitably came up--and the answers were predictable but telling.
State Senator Carl Andrews and City Council Member Yvette Clarke offered supportive generalizations. City Council Member David Yassky expressed both qualms and support. Community activist and former health care company manager Chris Owens savaged the project--and also took the opportunity to needle Yassky and point out contradictions in the positions of his rivals.
An insufficient question
The candidates were asked, āPlease explain your position on Atlantic Yards, which has been criticized as 'instant gentrification.'" Few of them directly addressed the question, which is an important one.
At this point, no political candidate should be allowed to simply offer general support for the project. They should be questioned as to whether they support the project at its current scale--the densest residential development in the country--or how much they believe it should be cut.
[The transcripts are verbatim, except for a few places where my tape was inaudible.]
Carl Andrews
I support Forest City Ratnerās project. I believe that there are some very good things in the project. Affordable housing for senior citizens, and low-income housing, and economic development. Thereās also a Community Benefits Agreement, the second one of its kind in the nation. Is it a perfect project? No. Are there some things that need to be worked out? Yes. But the overall concept I support.
Note that the Community Benefits Agreement is not the second of its kind.
Yvette Clarke
When I look at the crisis of affordable housing in the 11th Congressional District and the crisis of unemployment and lack of economic opportunity for Central Brooklyn, I had to weigh the benefits and the burdens of the Atlantic Yards project. And having been an economic development practitioner myself, I can tell you that, when someone says to me that the jobs are just temporary, in a community where people are unemployed for generations, I think thereās an issue around class, thereās an issue around race that has to be addressed. And those who say that perhaps this project will regentrify, well, I tell you itās happening today, without that project. This is the first project weāve ever had with that number of affordable housing units in Central Brooklyn in generations. I believe we have an opportunity to help shape it in a way in which the benefits will outweigh the burdens.
Indeed, the DEIS says that gentrification is already happening--the question is whether this would accelerate it. As for the class and race issue, among the people who've criticized the temporary nature of the jobs is former Black Panther Bob Law. As for the "opportunity to help shape it," Clarke should be asked what she means.
David Yassky
On Atlantic Yards, the current project is way too big. Thereās no place for 60-story towers in Brooklyn. I believe the project will create traffic nightmares unless itās [inaudible] back. I want to see a way to make this project go forward so we can realize the benefits that it does promise--good jobs, affordable housingābut without destroying the neighborhoods around Atlantic Yards. Iām the only candidate here whoās put out a specific traffic plan for how to deal with the traffic that will be created by that project.
I later asked Yassky's spokesman Evan Thies about that traffic plan, and was told it had been submitted last year to the Empire State Development Corporation as part of the response to the Draft Scope for an environmental impact statement. Thies didn't forward me to the document, but did respond to a follow-up question: "David has spoken about his ideas for traffic remediation repeatedly at forums and with voters."
Chris Owens
Iām opposed to the project. Iāve been opposed to the project. I donāt believe you jump on board a development that drops 18,000 people in an areaāyou jump on board and say, āYes, itās wonderfulā--without asking the tough questions. Not one of my colleagues was asking tough questions a year ago, two years ago, three years ago, in fact, all of them, particularly David, were walking around supporting it unconditionally. It took place, David. So the reality is: they werenāt asking the tough questions when there was an opportunity to change it, and now they try to make it sound like we can change it.
The bottom line is, we either go forward or we donāt go forward. We have to shape it by providing our position. I was there opposing it, and I know that the impact on housing, regardless of the number of so-called affordable housing units that will come in, the impact on housing will be devastating. I had a meeting with a woman in Fannie Mae who said to me that she does not know how poor people are going to live in city in 15 years. The ripple effects of this project have yet to be felt and public housing residentsā¦ are next, itās just a matter of time before folks who canāt afford to live here are pushed outā¦ and if you say [inaudible] jobs, make it enforceable, because itās not that.
I emailed Owens afterward to explain what he thinks about the promises of jobs in the Atlantic Yards Community Benefits Agreement, which others have also criticized as unenforceable. I was told yesterday that a response was in process; when I get it, I'll post it.
Owens takes on Yassky
Given the opportunity to ask a fellow candidate a questions, Owens, son of the retiring Congressman, pointed out that Yassky had announced support from the family of slain Council Member James Davis, which was later withdrawn, and a number of people who had signed the Atlantic Yards Community Benefits Agreement (CBA): Do you have any supporters in the African-American community who are not seeking a dollar from you or a major developer?
Yassky stayed cool: There are really good people, in every part of this district, people from one end to the other, people like the head of the residentsā association of Wyckoff Gardensā
I question her, Owens interjected. (Sheās Charlene Nimmons, a signatory of the CBA.
āand the head of the residentsā association at the Van Dyke houses at the other.
I question her too, Owens continued, to laughter.
Yassky went on to cite support for his work on affordable housing and gun control, and how he attracts a range of volunteers.
In closing, Owens again took on Yassky:
We have people who talk about their commitment to stopping asthma, but they support a project that is going to increase the amounts of traffic in Brooklyn and is going to destroy air quality all across Eastern Brooklyn. We have people who say they want to support jobs, but Iām still the only person on this stage who wrote a piece demanding a specific assignment of jobs to people who live in Brooklyn, to people of color, but nobody is willing to support that, because they donāt want to set guidelines out for those businesses that might move into Forest City Ratner. So whoās standing up for the people? We talked about education, and we talk about how No Child Left Behind should be gutted. Well, thatās easy to say, but the reality is our education system is failing in large part because we supportāwe allow a war to continue to suck all of the life out of the education systemā¦.These guys in Washington play for blood. If you canāt stand up to a Ratner and some of the big donors, how can you stand up to Bush and the Republicans?
State Senator Carl Andrews and City Council Member Yvette Clarke offered supportive generalizations. City Council Member David Yassky expressed both qualms and support. Community activist and former health care company manager Chris Owens savaged the project--and also took the opportunity to needle Yassky and point out contradictions in the positions of his rivals.
An insufficient question
The candidates were asked, āPlease explain your position on Atlantic Yards, which has been criticized as 'instant gentrification.'" Few of them directly addressed the question, which is an important one.
At this point, no political candidate should be allowed to simply offer general support for the project. They should be questioned as to whether they support the project at its current scale--the densest residential development in the country--or how much they believe it should be cut.
[The transcripts are verbatim, except for a few places where my tape was inaudible.]
Carl Andrews

Note that the Community Benefits Agreement is not the second of its kind.
Yvette Clarke

Indeed, the DEIS says that gentrification is already happening--the question is whether this would accelerate it. As for the class and race issue, among the people who've criticized the temporary nature of the jobs is former Black Panther Bob Law. As for the "opportunity to help shape it," Clarke should be asked what she means.
David Yassky

I later asked Yassky's spokesman Evan Thies about that traffic plan, and was told it had been submitted last year to the Empire State Development Corporation as part of the response to the Draft Scope for an environmental impact statement. Thies didn't forward me to the document, but did respond to a follow-up question: "David has spoken about his ideas for traffic remediation repeatedly at forums and with voters."
Chris Owens

The bottom line is, we either go forward or we donāt go forward. We have to shape it by providing our position. I was there opposing it, and I know that the impact on housing, regardless of the number of so-called affordable housing units that will come in, the impact on housing will be devastating. I had a meeting with a woman in Fannie Mae who said to me that she does not know how poor people are going to live in city in 15 years. The ripple effects of this project have yet to be felt and public housing residentsā¦ are next, itās just a matter of time before folks who canāt afford to live here are pushed outā¦ and if you say [inaudible] jobs, make it enforceable, because itās not that.
I emailed Owens afterward to explain what he thinks about the promises of jobs in the Atlantic Yards Community Benefits Agreement, which others have also criticized as unenforceable. I was told yesterday that a response was in process; when I get it, I'll post it.
Owens takes on Yassky
Given the opportunity to ask a fellow candidate a questions, Owens, son of the retiring Congressman, pointed out that Yassky had announced support from the family of slain Council Member James Davis, which was later withdrawn, and a number of people who had signed the Atlantic Yards Community Benefits Agreement (CBA): Do you have any supporters in the African-American community who are not seeking a dollar from you or a major developer?
Yassky stayed cool: There are really good people, in every part of this district, people from one end to the other, people like the head of the residentsā association of Wyckoff Gardensā
I question her, Owens interjected. (Sheās Charlene Nimmons, a signatory of the CBA.
āand the head of the residentsā association at the Van Dyke houses at the other.
I question her too, Owens continued, to laughter.
Yassky went on to cite support for his work on affordable housing and gun control, and how he attracts a range of volunteers.
In closing, Owens again took on Yassky:
We have people who talk about their commitment to stopping asthma, but they support a project that is going to increase the amounts of traffic in Brooklyn and is going to destroy air quality all across Eastern Brooklyn. We have people who say they want to support jobs, but Iām still the only person on this stage who wrote a piece demanding a specific assignment of jobs to people who live in Brooklyn, to people of color, but nobody is willing to support that, because they donāt want to set guidelines out for those businesses that might move into Forest City Ratner. So whoās standing up for the people? We talked about education, and we talk about how No Child Left Behind should be gutted. Well, thatās easy to say, but the reality is our education system is failing in large part because we supportāwe allow a war to continue to suck all of the life out of the education systemā¦.These guys in Washington play for blood. If you canāt stand up to a Ratner and some of the big donors, how can you stand up to Bush and the Republicans?
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