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Times columnist suggests Brooklyn arena would be only 15 minutes from MSG. Nah.

New York Times Sports columnist Harvey Araton thinks the Atlantic Yards arena would be only 15 minutes by subway from Madison Square Garden, but he's off by about 100 percent--it's nearly twice as long a trip, according to HopStop (and likely even longer, given the underground passageway planned).

Araton (who lives in New Jersey but once lived in Brooklyn) writes, in a column headlined For the Nets, A Brooklyn Stars Can’t See:
If [NBA Commissioner David] Stern had to be sold on what Brooklyn might become as an alternative to the failed Meadowlands experiment, what can we expect from the league’s reigning prima donnas?

Travis Outlaw isn’t one of them. As a consolation-prize free agent last summer, Outlaw, a 6-foot-9 forward from Starkville, Miss., received a rather generous deal from the Nets: $35 million over five years, at least two to be played in Newark.

Asked Monday night if he and the typical N.B.A. player had a sense of the approximate location of the new arena to Midtown, or to Madison Square Garden, Outlaw shrugged.

“I don’t think guys think it’s too far, but they probably don’t really know if it’s that close or not,” he said.

Told the arena was only about a 15-minute subway ride from the Garden, Outlaw said: “That’s it? That ain’t bad at all. That’s crazy. I didn’t know that at all.”
Click on the graphic to enlarge, and see the contradiction.


  1. I took that exact trip last week, getting on an express train at 34th Street at 7:15 p.m., and arriving at Atlantic Avenue at 7:40 p.m. I had noted the time because I was trying to get to an appointment.

  2. The Barclays Center web site, by the way, claims 18 minutes:

    No matter where you are in metro New York, you’re just minutes away from the excitement of the Barclays Center.

    The Barclays Center will be one of the most accessible sports and entertainment venues in the area. Centrally located at the intersection of Atlantic and Flatbush Avenues, it will be served by New York’s third-largest transportation hub. Visitors will have the option of taking 9 different subway lines and the LIRR, just 8 minutes from Wall Street, 18 minutes from Penn Station, and 20 minutes from Times Square or Grand Central Station. The Brooklyn and Manhattan Bridges also provide easy access from Manhattan, while the Holland Tunnel is a quick drive away.


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