tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20743459.post2890718815320787026..comments2024-03-18T05:56:29.009-04:00Comments on Atlantic Yards/Pacific Park Report: Times critic Kimmelman salutes Barclays Center (antithesis of MSG), raises doubts about overall Atlantic Yards plan, suggests "variety of architects... with different developers"Norman Oderhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07618087999719667586noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20743459.post-67891727322555989192012-10-31T18:05:34.488-04:002012-10-31T18:05:34.488-04:00To the first commenter, I added mention of the SEI...To the first commenter, I added mention of the SEIS and the potential 25-year buildout, unfortunately not addressed in this review.Norman Oderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07618087999719667586noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20743459.post-25470252851304345072012-10-31T16:13:26.816-04:002012-10-31T16:13:26.816-04:00A reader writes to me:
"He does touch on th...A reader writes to me: <br /><br />"He does touch on the diversion of traffic to Third Avenue where a large concentration of public housing residents live and he calls for some of the commercial sponsorship income plus other subsidies to be used not for 'affordable housing' but for housing for 'low and moderate income' Brooklynites--a substantive difference. He also points out added public subsidies for Ratner means monies diverted from other areas of the city. "<br /><br />I'd note that the affordable housing includes low-, moderate-, and middle-income housing, and that the latter is where the larger subsidized apartments in the first building are concentrated. See:<br />bkbureau.org/agency-developer-wrestle-over-atlantic-yards-affordability<br />Norman Oderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07618087999719667586noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20743459.post-44164918522735597632012-10-31T15:58:21.630-04:002012-10-31T15:58:21.630-04:00As I said, he touches on the Culture of Cheating--...As I said, he touches on the Culture of Cheating--the process issues--without fully addressing them. But there is an enormous contrast with the previous critics (Muschamp, Ouroussoff). Will ponder your points.Norman Oderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07618087999719667586noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20743459.post-12318730765336407422012-10-31T15:50:13.075-04:002012-10-31T15:50:13.075-04:00I think you are perhaps too kind to the article. ...I think you are perhaps too kind to the article. It is disingenious and uneven. The structure and balance of the article makes it seem like it was the stadium only and its design that angered activists. As if we all were so selfish that only traffic was our concern. And, as if all activists lived right next door, when there were people throughout the borough if not the entire city who were fighting this project. Kimmelman's own critiques in the last paragraphs seemed to me to be commmonly held critiques by many activists. All being given to one developer who already has had a poor track record in Brooklyn: Atlantic Terminal Mall, the Metotech. Poorly integrated into the neighborhood. Unaccountable public subsidies. Lack of plan for new schools and other services to serve the people in the new housing. He acts like he came up with these categories of criticism by himself and does not point to any other sources for them. The main criticism I took from my engagement with Develop Don't Destroy and other activist groups was the issue with the process. Democracy is not a result but a process. The Barclay's Center tried and succeeded in evading democracy at every turn. Worshipped for product before process. To me that can only lead to ugliness.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com